Reality is an illusion with Donald Hoffman

This is second episode with Donald Hoffman. Donald is a Professor Emeritus of Cognitive Sciences at the University of California, Irvine. He is an author of three books, including The Case Against Reality: Why Evolution Hid the Truth from Our Eyes. Here we talk about what is mathematics?, Interface theory of perception, fundamental nature of consciousness, origin of life, spiritual experiences and meaning of death.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:51 Interface theory of perception

00:09:12 Reductionist approach in science

00:13:52 What is mathematics?

00:22:12 Emergence of mathematics

00:25:28 Conscious agents and complexity

00:32:52 Modern science on consciousness

00:39:07 Experiments to study structures beyond space-time

00:57:19 Complexity from conscious agents

01:03:03 Is there an objective reality?

01:09:19 Limited semantics to explain reality beyond space-time

01:15:34 Intelligence and consciousness

01:17:39 Perception of a self

01:24:30 Is consciousness a gradient or discrete?

01:27:14 Understanding universal consciousness

01:38:38 Meditation, psychedelics and spiritual experiences

01:40:40 Bernardo Kastrup's analytical idealism

01:43:37 Fundamental consciousness is scientific or philosophical problem

01:47:26 Can we go beyond our interface to see reality?

01:49:44 Importance of silence in life

01:55:16 Worldview of consciousness as fundamental

02:03:50 Thank you!

Other conversations and talks:

1) Do we see reality as it is? @TED

2) Donald Hoffman on Ultimate Reality @Closer To Truth

3) The Case Against Reality @Skeptic

4) The Death of SpaceTime & Birth of Conscious Agents @Science and Nonduality

5) Donald Hoffman Λ Joscha Bach on Consciousness, Free Will, and Gödel [Theolocution] @Theories of Everything with Curt Jaimungal

6) The Case Against Reality @The Institute of Art and Ideas 7) Lex Fridman @Lex Fridman (

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